Friday, January 27, 2012

Why don't people say Merry Christmas or Christmas Trees?

It's ironic because Christmas Trees symbolize the Trinity, and wreaths symbolize God's undying love for us. I know that we have to be tolerant of other people, and I agree 100%, but that tolerance has to go both ways-in public school you should be able to say God and Chruches should be able to toll their bells, and people who claim it's prejudice, well they are discriminating against us for not paying Catholic High School tuition and eliminating God. Why are people not grasping this concept? What is it against Catholics? Are people just that judgemental and selfish?

Why don't people say Merry Christmas or Christmas Trees?
Where do you get this kind of crappy information???? Trees and such were around long before christianity. As far as being judgmental and selfish, have you looked in the mirror lately?
Reply:Actually the Christmas tree is an old germanic custom. People brought the tree inside and kept it alive thru the winter, because it was believed to keep ecil spirits away. Which in a way makes sense since plants excrete clean air. The main misconception that protestants have against catholics is that they believe they worship idiol, ex. the Virgin Mary. They do not know or want to understand that we pray to her to pray to God on our behalf.
Reply:I don't really see how Christmas trees symbolize the Trinity, I think that is something someone made up, but it's ok to believe it, I guess. Same thing with wreaths, maybe.



You are allowed to say God and church or anything you wish about your beliefs in a public school, as long as you are a student. If your school is prohibiting you, you can sue the school and you would win the lawsuit, because the laws protect your freedom of speech.



Where I live, I hear church bells several times a day, and I love it.



There IS a lot of bias against Catholics and Catholicism -- it has been that way for many years and is deeply ingrained into people's psyche, they don't even realize how history and culture as well as their own upbringing has created a bias within them.



You have to believe what you wish to believe in spite of people who bash you for your beliefs.
Reply:hahaha--Christmas trees are forbidden in the bible--read Mark, you moron.........
Reply:Well because these trees have nothing to do with Christianity.



They were originally for the winter solstice for Pagans.
Reply:Some people don't celebrate Christmas. Not everyone in this nation does, some celebrate Hannakuh or Quanza.



Keep it in your homes, your churches, your Catholic/Christian schools.
Reply:Actually the tree came from a Pagan ritual, as did the celebration of Christmas. Christ was actually born in the spring. Also, I know plenty of Catholics who say they are better than everyone just because they are Catholic. Get some of those people to be quiet and perhaps you'll see more tolerance.
Reply:No offense, but you're totally off. Trees, wreaths, yule logs, mistletoe ALL of it is Norse Pagan. I can even tell you the lore and cite sources on it if you like.

The only thing Christian about Christmas is Christ.
Reply:Many people say both "Merry Christmas" and "Christmas Tree", even people who are not Christian. I'm not sure which "people" you are referring to. If you mean, why is there a move to "de-religionize" (like my new word?!) the winter holiday celebrations it's because in the US, we have a separation of church and state. To always use the term "Christmas" is to exclude those with other beliefs.



However, I personally feel like both these terms have become pretty generic and the word "Christmas" has lost a lot of its religious connotation.
Reply:I have no problems with saying Merry Christmas, but I really don't see how the Christmas Tree symbolizes the Trinity. I thought it was of pagan origin, but just later added to the Christmas tradition history.
Reply:Do you mean, "Why are people discouraged from saying 'Merry Christmas' and putting up Christmas displays in public?" I have never heard that Christmas trees symbolize the Trinity. I think you have it mixed up with the shamrock. We live in a very multicultural society and should be respectful of the traditions of everyone. Christmas is such a major American holiday -- it is inescapable this time of year. However, I shouldn't assume that everyone celebrates Christmas. The people I meet may be of another religion, so I play it safe and wish them "Happy Holidays!". If I'm striking up a conversation with someone I don't know, I ask, "Do you have any special plans for the holiday season?" They will let me know what the "holiday" means to them. I have been a teacher for many years. There is no restriction about saying God in public schools. We just can't make students follow the rituals of any particular religion. There are always those who don't want any public display of religion, so some towns are arguing about nativity scenes. I don't get upset about it. It's a holiday and I enjoy it. Christians should celebrate at home with their families, at church, and by helping those who don't have enough. Why spoil your fun worrying about not getting a plastic electric nativity scene in the park or a Christmas tree at school?
Reply:pagan evergreen trees represent the trinity?



now i've heard everything (not literally)

flowers and gifts

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